The founder of a gay AA group, who lives in the village in northern NB where he grew up, talks about realizing that being gay wasn’t considered acceptable by those around him, recovering from alcoholism, and his appreciation for the natural world. In part two of the interview, another gay man who is present has different views than Wayne about what it means to him to be gay, and, about acceptance by the non-gay community. [Note to the listener: some parts of this interview are unclear]